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My question is about the three menu options that comes up as a result of holding one of three arrows and the rename button while powering up the tonelab. One is for volume pedal bias, one is for tube bias (for these you have to unplug everything but the power) and use the screws located on the back. Volume is the screw closest to the power button and the screw furthest from the power is to bias the tube.
Biasing the tube will instantly make the tonelab le sing for you. The other is unknown but it changes the entire tonal make-up of the unit.
It has a digital read out of 61 - 67. I believe this changes the class of the entire unit. Looks like rectifier, duel rectifier, class a, class ab ect.
Any input would be great. Hello Cgenson, I am glad you have taken the time to try these out. Biasing the tube allows any tube you put into the tone lab to work at optimum level. Before I found this out I would switch in and out a bunch of tubes. Some worked well, while other didn't. The reason is that the tube that was most like the stock would be biased the closest and the other were getting to much or to little.
By biasing most tubes sound great. There are still a few that I own that I don't like but thats due to not liking the tube itself. Go to tube depot and try out the Au7.
The circut board in the LE is a lot like the circut the use for amps with spring reverb and a lot of them use 12au7 instead of the 12ax7. I think you will be very happy with what you hear.
Try a bunch of tubes though, and not just ax7's try other comparable. When biasing the tube just make sure it reads 8.8. And you're good. Biasing the pedal is pretty obvious. Definitely try the down arrow option. The first patch 61 is the standard patch and you get switch back any time.
Vox Tonelab St Settings
You will really enjoy the other patches. In addition, I just got kick off of the Vox forum for speading the news. I tried calling them to ask questions and they hung up on me. I hope everyone with an Le or an ST try this out. I just bought the EX which is a nothing more than a pedal board that you don't have full control of editing but sounds good(with a lot of work). Any way, I hope some of you all reply to this and spead the word. The LE is way more powerful than any other pedal out there and for some reason Vox doesn't want you to know about it.
Vox Tonelab St Reviews
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I was shocked amazed today when I went to guitar center to pick up a new pedal board multi fix unit. My GNX3 is about to die to it's time. I tried the POD HD flooar units, the new DIGITECH multi floor units, and everything else they had. Sadly, NONE of them had the amount or quantity of gain I was really looking for and I was taken aback when the guy suggested a VOX piece as I've never liked anything with the VOX name on it in the past as none of it seemed built for lead/metal/chug etc. I am happy to say I was DEAD WRONG. I ended up with a TONE LAB EX which is the bigger brother to the ST but still a small board.
Solid build I must say and has a real tube in it that provides warmth and signal compression much like a but tube amp turned up. I put it side by side with the other processors and I could not believe it. Even with a light touch, with the compression on and using the high gain amp with overdrive pedal, playing without a pick or thumb using only fingertips was smooth as silk. Just blew me away and I bought the unit then and there. It also has a USB Audio Interface built in and a software editor for building patches. As a bonus there is now a new software emulator (like amplitude and such) on the market from Vox and I'm gonna try it as well as the Demo is free. Here is a link.
And here is a vid about the TONE LAB (Using the ST here which is the smaller version but the engine / tube is the same) This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: May 14 2012, 10:33 PM.
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I have the Tonelab desktop model. I never use patches, per se. I set it up just like I would an amp with a few effects in front.
I always use manual mode, and never the presets. Anyway, I set treble at about 5, mid at 4, bass at 2.5 (because there's no sense recording with lots of bass just to eq it out later), presence at full, gain at 3.5, and VR gain at full. I use either the Vox AC15TB or Vox AC30 models, and the tones I get with those settings are incredible.
Of course, what sounds fantastic to me might sound like absolute garbage to you, so I'd advise only using these settings as a rough guideline for your work. I would definitely recommend, however, only using the manual mode until you get the hang of the unit. That way you're building your own sounds from the ground up instead of using the presets that were put there at the factory. I've never found or been able to dial in really good 'twang' tones.
Don't know what the deal is I ended up just using a DM-2 and a CS-1 through my Blues Junior. I was using it for a while through my Acoustasonic for the dirtier tones. But, when I got the Marshalls, I just lost interest in it even for that. What I wish though is that I could turn off the amp models and just use the effects and such, as I might throw it through the Marshalls then as I also have the VC-12 foot controller.
It just seems wierd to be emulating an amp, through an amp that they choose to emulate:neutral. I'm with Fab Claxton on the patch thing. I never use the presets. I find that the ones that ship with the units are too effects heavy for my taste.
And the main reason that I avoid them is they weren't made with my guitar in mind. They were made with someone else's taste and someone else's equipment.
So if I'm going to have to fiddle with all the settings anyways, I might as well just start from scratch. Once I did download MANY user made patches for some computer modeling software, but most all of it was horrible.Which takes me back to the reasons why other's patches don't work: different equipment and different taste. I do often track down a favorite players rig and try and re-assemble it with my tonelab to see if I can get in the ball park. That would be my best advice. What are the artists you like playing through?
What equipment do they use? Do your favorite Blues artists use Fender bassman amps (tweed 4x10)? Or do you like guys that use Twin Reverbs (blackface 2x12)? Tube screamers? (tube overdrive on the pedal knob) For Country tones, I pretty my go back and forth between the AC-30 and the Blackface models. The AC-30 is perfect for getting a little hot tone a la Paisley.
The blackface will keep it cleaner and brighter. The cleanest model on there is the boutique clean, which is a Dumble I believe.
If I were seeking a Bluesy tone with some rough edges with the blackface model, I'd turn up the gain, turn up the mid real high and down real low on the bass to keep it from crumbling. But my favorite is the Tweed 4x12. Thats the best model in the unit in my book. Its great clean or dirty and best right in between. The Fender magic 6's seem to work well on the Fender models as a starting point (gain at 6,treble at 6, mid at 3 and bass on 2 or 3) Remember, with the tonelab, the Fender and Vox models never had a master volume, so keep the Virtual gain maxed or close to it to suck all that goodness from the tube.
Consider the Gain knob as your Volume knob. And just like the originals, the lounder you turn it up, the dirtier its going to get. But you can turn down the real volume with the channel volume. Thats a true volume knob for the unit and doesn't interfere with the gain structure or alter the sound at all.
Connectivity takes place around the back Vox ToneLab ST Since the launch of the first ToneLab modelling processor six years or so ago, Vox has progressively updated the concept. The first ToneLab needed a separate controller unit if you wanted footswitching ability, then along came the ToneLab SE with a full stage-worthy feature set including two treadles. Later on, the ToneLab LE put the premise of the SE into a smaller package. While undoubtedly strong on sounds, the LE perhaps lacked some of the flexibility of its rivals by not having direct computer connection. All that has now changed with the launch at this year's Frankfurt Musikmesse of the ToneLab ST, which as well as providing a similar set of tones to its larger sibling, also doubles as a USB audio interface, so you can use it as a front end for recording guitar to your computer as well as a rugged floor-pedal in front of your amp. The ToneLab ST offers a modelled five-part signal chain starting with a stompbox effect feeding an amp and cabinet followed by a modulation/delay effect and finally reverb. Each of those five elements has its own switch to take it in and out of the chain.
There are 33 amp models available in three banks - Standard, Special or Custom - with the amp in each bank selected via an 11-way chicken-head rotary switch. Five more rotary knobs provide control over the amp's gain, treble, middle, bass and volume. Choosing a cabinet model to go with your amp is a simple matter of holding down the cabinet switch until it flashes. One of 11 cabinets can then be selected using the gain knob - the number of the cabinet appearing in the ToneLab's small numeric display. While in this mode the treble knob adjusts presence and the middle knob turns on and sets the amount of noise reduction. There are 11 choices of pedal to start off the signal chain, these include five different overdrive/distortion/fuzz choices, treble boost, compressor, wah, octaver, Univibe and an acoustic simulation. Whatever pedal is chosen has one major parameter that can be adjusted.
The next stage in the chain - the modulation/delay effect, again with 11 effects choices - has two editable parameters adjustable by a rotary knob or, where appropriate, a Tap Tempo button. At the end of the signal chain a single rotary knob offers varying degrees of spring, room and hall reverb. The ToneLab ST has 100 memory patches on board, comprising 50 factory presets and 50 slots to store your own sounds. Whatever you set up on the front panel can be stored - including assignment of the pedal treadle, if not used for wah or volume, to a particular effect parameter. A pair of footswitches provides up and down access through the list of patches and can also select the onboard tuner.
The USB computer connection allows two channels of audio back and forth with the single output on the back of the unit acting as a stereo output for headphones or another monitoring system if not being used as the mono send to an amp. A rear panel four-position switch selects EQ options to best suit connection to either a line output or Vox, Marshall or Fender amps, while an aux input allows connection of MP3 players and the like for playing along with music. Hear 's Simon Bradley put the ToneLab ST through its paces: There are no operational niggles with the ToneLab ST - the tough metal body should be able to take the knocks plus the controls are simple to operate. Setting up a sound is straightforward whether you are starting from scratch or just tweaking one of the onboard presets. There's a wide range of available sounds and the presets reflect that variety by providing tones to suit most musical styles. Worthy of note are the first 20 factory presets, which aim to emulate songs well known to most guitar players and, while not exact clones, do come close in most cases. As digital modelling goes, the emulations here are up with the best and feel quite responsive to playing dynamics, helped perhaps by the Valvetronix circuitry with an onboard 12AX7 valve designed to emulate the operation of a valve push/pull power amp.
The generic names of the 11 amp model options tell you what type of sound you will get but in some cases you can get up to three different modelled amps for the Standard, Special or Custom variations. The clean position, for example, gives you a Dumble Overdrive Special, a Roland JC120 and a model of a four-band tone control for a pure clean sound. Overall, there's a nice mix of favoured old classics and newer models taking you from ultra-clean to full-on metal. Some of the effects are modelled on specific pedals while others are generic; there's nothing important missing. Some combinations, however, are not obviously possible - Hendrix fans may be frustrated by having to choose one from fuzz, Univibe and wah rather than all three. That said, you could set up a fuzzy-ish amp sound, then use the rotary or chorus+delay effects to emulate the UniVibe. In that sense you have enough on tap to emulate many of the great electric guitar sounds heard on record in the last 50 years, making the ToneLab ST an extremely useful recording tool.
It's also more practical than some USB-connected desktop processors as the treadle allows for some cool wah sounds and tactile control of other parameters. For live use, the ST lags behind the LE in practicality as it lacks individual effect switching. If you're using a wah, you can switch it on and off by pressing the front of the pedal as standard, but for everything else it's a matter of setting up the presets with the sounds that you need and stepping through them. If it's just, say, chorus that you need, you could set up one blank patch next to one that has chorus and just hit the up or down footswitch to alternate between the two. In theory you could set up a series of consecutive patches for a set of songs - something that will be streamlined with the free downloadable editing software that we've yet to try as it was not available during this test. Vox's Valvetronix modelled sounds are widely regarded as among the very best and the new ToneLab ST represents a nicely affordable way to get into them.
It's a great compact unit for home practice with its headphone/line output and, with the USB connection, offers an extremely convenient way to record the exact guitar sound that you want directly to computer. While it doesn't offer a flexible effects switching solution for live use, it could still offer a toneful selection of physically selected sounds in front of your amp.
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